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 Post subject: option engine
PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 07:14:44 
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Well after a few modifications I have my picco p zero installed.I had to modify the the lower xray engine mounts to fit the engine onto the chassis, then grind the top of the exhaust manifold to fit onto the engine.
Then the crankshaft had to shortened by 1mm so the end of the crankshaft didnt hit the rear trailing arm.This isnt what I would call a drop in upgrade engine. 8)


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:58:11 
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You had to mod the crankshaft? Did you get the pull start version or something?


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 Post subject: modify at your own risk.picco p 0
PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 22:13:19 
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Go to ofna.com and check out the pics of the engine.It has the threaded crankshaft that has a clutchnut/shaft that uses the eclip on the end like the Toki.I realize modifying the crank is not a good idea but I shaved 1mm off the crankshaft and the end of the shaft clears by .5mm at the rear trailing arm.So far with the engine breakin it runs smooth.It started up no problem.Pay attention to the exhast manifold you will need to modify it so it seats flat on the engines exhaust port.I will post pics soon.


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 Post subject: Re: modify at your own risk.picco p 0
PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 23:04:21 
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phatmonkey wrote:
Go to ofna.com and check out the pics of the engine.It has the threaded crankshaft that has a clutchnut/shaft that uses the eclip on the end like the Toki.So far with the engine breakin it runs smooth.It started up no problem.Pay attention to the exhast manifold you will need to modify it so it seats flat on the engines exhaust port.I will post pics soon.
if you replace the rear tie rods with the adjustable option tierods the engine fits with no major mods to the engine
I also swapped the rear engine hex head fasteners for the toki phillips head screws to clear the fuel tank.I made the mistake of hurrying to install the picco.You dont need to mod the crankshaft. check out pics at

http://www.one18th.com/GetGallery11675.htm


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 16:08:48 
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any news ? have you driven it yet, how does it perform?


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 Post subject: Yea its fast
PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 06:30:46 
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Yea nite and day over the Toki powerwise.I run 30% nitro and it purs like a kitten.No leakage either I am lovin it.With the exceptional quality of the Xray NT18T plus this new engine this is hands down the best micro nitro vehicle available, everything else in this class including the 1/16 vehicles flooding the market are JUNK! Thanks Xray.


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 Post subject: Re: Yea its fast
PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 01:02:54 
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phatmonkey wrote:
Yea nite and day over the Toki powerwise.I run 30% nitro and it purs like a kitten.No leakage either I am lovin it.With the exceptional quality of the Xray NT18T plus this new engine this is hands down the best micro nitro vehicle available, everything else in this class including the 1/16 vehicles flooding the market are JUNK! Thanks Xray.


After having an nb16,mini t,rc18t, and still got a mini lst(forever blowing diffs) the Xray quality is excellent and the others are no comparison.My only gripe is getting parts.


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 Post subject: Parts.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 06:50:43 
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Stormer hobby has spare parts along with Team Helotes Hobby but as for engine parts we are out of luck for now.Xray has set the standard for micro nitro cars and trucks.I think the only way of Xray introducing this size class they had was to include the only engine out there that would worked well but with that said maybe offer the nt18t/nt18 with no engine.The Picco P-0 turboplug engine has hit the mark with a high quality product that is equal in quality to my picco .28 turbo plug engine and there is talk of a Sirio producing a comparible engine.I also have a Xray XB8 buggy that is the best kit I have ever owned that is I have never broken it and I have abused it.


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 Post subject: Wow
PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 02:24:19 
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So I took out the little truck today and took some high speed runs on pavement and its fast with the picco.It pulls to the right a bit but it flys.It has no problem in the short grass and the medium grass in my yard and sounds like a very angry huge Bumble Bee as you see the grass parted like the red Sea as it comes :twisted: mowing by.
Have Fun Im lovin it.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:07:21 
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Got my picco p0 engine last week from tower hobby. After all the modification and tips by phatmonkey, the p0 was able to fit in my nt18t sucessfully. I'm waiting for my Xray parts(to convert to N18MT) then i'll run in the engine. Will post up picture once everything is upz... Cheers!! :twisted:


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:52:13 
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With some own creation and handy work you can fit anything. Currently my M18 conversion to a NT18 is almost finished.
I am using an OSmax 10-FP (1.7cc) engine 8)

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This engine is almost the size of a 2.1cc racing engine so a JP FX12 could be a next step


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 18:57:45 
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Nothing like overkill Roelof, :lol:

Looks like a handfull.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 23:36:11 
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My impression is overkill on engine. Alright with the suspension redo.

Helotes & stormer really good places to order parts. Jeff @ Helotes a person has good communication with his client. And its nice to know he's in the state which RCAmerica is in. He can get you the parts you need. Stormer has a Stocking system, tell you the quantity of parts in stock. Kind of impressed with his turn around time. I ordered part on tuesday, they arrived saturday postal delivery

Tower I think got thier prices turned around. B/N non-pull & pull start. I got mine at a LHS for $129 w/6.95 shipping. Ordered it thursday, received it the next day 22 hrs later. Was going to wait for the toki to retire, But after installing a P-Zero in a friend car!! I'm hooked. Picco is a screamer. Revs approximately 6-8000 rpms more. Maybe for the weekend, been too busy lately.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 06:57:29 
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Rock on! :evil: I just hope the drivetrain can handle the extra power but we will see.I have mine changed over to the MT shock system and there is less rear squat under full throttle on pavement and it adds a little more ride height.I will be taking some video soon


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:14:50 
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Can't wait for the video to be post up, man! Cheers!! :twisted:


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 17:47:01 
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could i put the pico in a nt18?


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 01:42:30 
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Yes you can, install it in NT18. I just finished installing one. Things you have to do. Picco non-pull engine, no room for the pull-start. You have to grind down the exhaust manfold to accommodate the header or grind down the last two fins on the engine. May have to grind down the crankshaft a touch, The shaft is longer then the clutch shoes pegs. Finally you have to work to get the endplay correct, it comes with shims but still have to work on it.. In other word do a dry fit of the clutch bell assembly before you finalize the assembly.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 03:17:18 
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Get the Xray brand adjustable rear tie rods and it will clear.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 04:57:12 
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thats not to bad, i will have to do this


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 15:45:47 
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I also had to swap the rear cover screws from the Toki, on the picco they hit the fuel tank


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