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 Post subject: Re: PROBLEM - LOSEN TO MANY REAR BELTS
PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 21:22:27 
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Today my rear belt broke, it was 2 positions softer then initial instruction manual position (max. loose). The front belt was in middle position. It happened after 15-20 batteries on 10.5T boosted. Should I try to tighten the front belt, because in theory a bit more power should go to the front belt?

Off topic: how many teeth does the 189 mm rear belt have?


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 Post subject: Re: PROBLEM - LOSEN TO MANY REAR BELTS
PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 00:33:07 
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Well guys, after talk to Martin Hudy, I tried to use the rear belt 1 step tensioned.
Just one ok? Middle to 1 step.
I ran 3 batteries (something like 36 minutes) and my belt is ok.
No harm at all.
I will continue the test next week and keep you posted.


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 Post subject: Re: PROBLEM - LOSEN TO MANY REAR BELTS
PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 01:53:05 
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UrabusDenis wrote:
Off topic: how many teeth does the 189 mm rear belt have?


63t

189mm divided by 3mm (the pitch between teeth) = 63t


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 Post subject: Re: PROBLEM - LOSEN TO MANY REAR BELTS
PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 13:56:29 
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If you've tried everything and it fails, get a BD-5 rear belt.


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 Post subject: Re: PROBLEM - LOSEN TO MANY REAR BELTS
PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 20:51:34 
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defcone wrote:
If you've tried everything and it fails, get a BD-5 rear belt.



Do you know were I can buy it from? (which website?)


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 Post subject: Re: PROBLEM - LOSEN TO MANY REAR BELTS
PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 20:52:54 
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Salinet wrote:
Well guys, after talk to Martin Hudy, I tried to use the rear belt 1 step tensioned.
Just one ok? Middle to 1 step.
I ran 3 batteries (something like 36 minutes) and my belt is ok.
No harm at all.
I will continue the test next week and keep you posted.



I tried it too, did exactly like you said and ran 5 batteries (5,000mah) and so far is fine....

Lets hope it works


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 Post subject: Re: PROBLEM - LOSEN TO MANY REAR BELTS
PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 21:31:02 
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gusbak wrote:
Salinet wrote:
Well guys, after talk to Martin Hudy, I tried to use the rear belt 1 step tensioned.
Just one ok? Middle to 1 step.
I ran 3 batteries (something like 36 minutes) and my belt is ok.
No harm at all.
I will continue the test next week and keep you posted.



I tried it too, did exactly like you said and ran 5 batteries (5,000mah) and so far is fine....

Lets hope it works


Yeap!
Let's pray.
lol


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 Post subject: Re: PROBLEM - LOSEN TO MANY REAR BELTS
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 19:09:06 
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Salinet wrote:
Well guys, after talk to Martin Hudy, I tried to use the rear belt 1 step tensioned.
Just one ok? Middle to 1 step.
I ran 3 batteries (something like 36 minutes) and my belt is ok.
No harm at all.
I will continue the test next week and keep you posted.


Just to make it clear, your belt is on 2nd most loose position (one position looser than initial middle position)?


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 Post subject: Re: PROBLEM - LOSEN TO MANY REAR BELTS
PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 21:35:58 
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When your belts broke, did they snap suddenly or did they look bad from the beginning? When my belt snapped, almost from the first battery is looked very worn out (from the sides) and after 15 batteries it snapped. My friend runs his belt in the middle position and has no problems so far, when I get my belt I will try it this way.


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 Post subject: Re: PROBLEM - LOSEN TO MANY REAR BELTS
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 03:03:44 
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Flávio, posso estar falando besteira, mas acho que o bumpers da Caar ajudam bastante a estourar correias.
Sabemos que com o gerdiff as correias sofrem um pouco mais, isso aliado aos bumpers... é pancada atras de pancada na correia!


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 Post subject: Re: PROBLEM - LOSEN TO MANY REAR BELTS
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 21:52:53 
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Salinet wrote:
gusbak wrote:
Salinet wrote:
Well guys, after talk to Martin Hudy, I tried to use the rear belt 1 step tensioned.
Just one ok? Middle to 1 step.
I ran 3 batteries (something like 36 minutes) and my belt is ok.
No harm at all.
I will continue the test next week and keep you posted.



I tried it too, did exactly like you said and ran 5 batteries (5,000mah) and so far is fine....

Lets hope it works


Yeap!
Let's pray.
lol


Well I thought the problem is gone... 15 batteries and the belt snaped again.

I installed a ball diff yesterday and will try it to see what will happen


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 Post subject: Re: PROBLEM - LOSEN TO MANY REAR BELTS
PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 02:29:57 
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Well I thought the problem is gone... 15 batteries and the belt snaped again.

I installed a ball diff yesterday and will try it to see what will happen


I cannot believe it is not catching on something.


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 Post subject: Re: PROBLEM - LOSEN TO MANY REAR BELTS
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 02:08:32 
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UrabusDenis wrote:
Salinet wrote:
Well guys, after talk to Martin Hudy, I tried to use the rear belt 1 step tensioned.
Just one ok? Middle to 1 step.
I ran 3 batteries (something like 36 minutes) and my belt is ok.
No harm at all.
I will continue the test next week and keep you posted.


Just to make it clear, your belt is on 2nd most loose position (one position looser than initial middle position)?


Middle to tight.
1st tight position!


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 Post subject: Re: PROBLEM - LOSEN TO MANY REAR BELTS
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 02:15:32 
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rasta_man wrote:
Flávio, posso estar falando besteira, mas acho que o bumpers da Caar ajudam bastante a estourar correias.
Sabemos que com o gerdiff as correias sofrem um pouco mais, isso aliado aos bumpers... é pancada atras de pancada na correia!


Quem seria Rasta_man?
Com certeza os bumpers da CAAR contribuem sim!
Mas conversando com o Martin Hudy o mesmo me confirmou que já soube deste problema em outros locais.
Mas a CAAR agora está quase zerada de bumper, terminou a reforma da pista e está 80% sem bumper... para ficar 100% sem bumper só fazendo uma pista nova.
Os bumpers que ficaram são quase que imperceptíveis.

Abraço


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 Post subject: Re: PROBLEM - LOSEN TO MANY REAR BELTS
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:10:25 
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Hi guys

Just got my t3 2012 done and I'll be going to test it soon.

With all the rear belt questions going on, just want to ask what is the best position to place it ( middle, tighter or looser) for a asphalt track, 13.5 with boost, low to medium traction?


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 Post subject: Re: PROBLEM - LOSEN TO MANY REAR BELTS
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:26:44 
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i always use middle
i have never ever had problem with this in modified,blinky 13.5(gm 120+13.5 gm pro) or in prostock neither.


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 Post subject: Re: PROBLEM - LOSEN TO MANY REAR BELTS
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:33:03 
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Stanley Bąk wrote:
i always use middle
i have never ever had problem with this in modified,blinky 13.5(gm 120+13.5 gm pro) or in prostock neither.


Thanks Stanley, much appreciated :D


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 Post subject: Re: PROBLEM - LOSEN TO MANY REAR BELTS
PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 01:58:53 
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Well guys, no more problem after the Martin Hudy's tip
I'm using the gear diff one step tight and my rear belt was ok.
Problem solved!


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 Post subject: Re: PROBLEM - LOSEN TO MANY REAR BELTS
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 20:10:48 
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Salinet wrote:
Well guys, no more problem after the Martin Hudy's tip
I'm using the gear diff one step tight and my rear belt was ok.
Problem solved!


I'm sorry Salinet for being a pain in the a**, but I still don't understand what do you mean by "middle to tight"? Starting from the middle position (initial instruction manual position), how many steps left or right (tigher or looser) is that? Today my colleague also snapped his belt, his was in middle position, as is mine in the moment. Tomorrow is race day, and I will try with horizontal position (not upper or lower, the softest position) or the one tighter than that, since the belt has had a few runs (initial manual middle position) and it's already very worn on the side.


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 Post subject: Re: PROBLEM - LOSEN TO MANY REAR BELTS
PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 12:28:30 
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All the xray drivers at our club have all switched to the yokomo bd-189L belt, and have had no problems since. Much stronger, and you can run at maximum loose setting with no issue. The standard belt breaks too easily, will need to be modified next year. Running the belt tighter is not an option in 17.5 blinky you loose too much top end speed.


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