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 Post subject: Re: XB9
PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 19:30:42 
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 Post subject: Re: XB9
PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 19:43:43 
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Hi Dave, yeah I know what it should be, and the info on the updated manual page is correct - but the downloaded pdf is wrong....


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 Post subject: Re: XB9
PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 22:31:56 
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Try here then:

http://netload.in/dateiEF7QiObQs7/XB9 Instruction Manual.pdf.htm

Copy the whole text.


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 Post subject: Re: XB9
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 15:11:53 
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Hello everyone. First post for me. I am ordering the XB9 and have a question.

Looking at a few of the setups, I am noticing that quite a few people are using other manufacturers springs. I am wondering why this is? With the quality of the xray, why would you not want to use their springs also?


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 Post subject: Re: XB9
PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 03:16:55 
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The Xray springs are great and thats what I always end up useing and I have tried them all and have them on hand but IMO Xray springs are better for my setup. The stock spring are to soft for me to use in the summer.


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 Post subject: Re: XB9
PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 19:23:56 
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bookert wrote:
Hello everyone. First post for me. I am ordering the XB9 and have a question.

Looking at a few of the setups, I am noticing that quite a few people are using other manufacturers springs. I am wondering why this is? With the quality of the xray, why would you not want to use their springs also?


Amain hobbies is out of stock on Xray progessive springs. So I run whatever spring is in the bottom of my pit box to get by.

Can't wait to try the progessive springs and some of the new valved pistons out there. I'm going to test the CSI pistons first. I know there is another soft rebound type of piston about to hit the market.


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 Post subject: Spring of Savoya setup sheet
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 05:00:04 
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Could you teach me Spring of Savoya's setup sheet at Astra.
That description says 3 stripe.
How Xray product code is that?
Is it progressive prototype spring?


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 Post subject: Re: Spring of Savoya setup sheet
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 09:44:36 
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Nimbus wrote:
Could you teach me Spring of Savoya's setup sheet at Astra.
That description says 3 stripe.
How Xray product code is that?
Is it progressive prototype spring?


Yes they are part of the new progressive springs xray has been working on.


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 Post subject: Re: Savöx issues
PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 14:35:33 
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Lille-bror wrote:
Hi.

I'm in the middle of building my XB9. When I mounted the Savöx throttle servo (without any COMPOSITE STEERING SERVO HOLDERs) the servo sits waaaay to high. I think its suppose the sit 1mm above the skid plate but mine is approx. 3mm above it. As you can see on one af the pictures, the throttle linkage is messed up...

I mounted a Futaba servo for steering also without COMPOSITE STEERING SERVO HOLDERs. That height are correct. If I mounted a Savöx servo, I would have the same issues as with the throttle servo.

I think the servo mounting areas are 3 mm too high.

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Hi,
i'm too in the middle of assembly the Xb9 and miss the radio box
I have Savox servo and i want if i have problem for assembly the horn of throttle
I have to insert some shims to up the horn?

Thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: XB9
PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 22:34:10 
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Looks like the wrong type of servo. Airplane servo?

I use only Hitec servos, the 7955 and 7950.


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 Post subject: Re: XB9
PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 10:17:47 
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no no...
I use Savox high voltage sc1267!

I have install servo without rubber in hole.
But the adj turnbuckle (cod. 302611) of servo of steering
is very close to the box of battery!!
I put the rubber to up all?

Can you help me with some photo?


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 Post subject: Re: XB9
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 12:48:05 
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Hi,

if possible then always use the shock absorbing rubbers supplied with the servos. If it sits too low, still, you have to use the composite servo lifting plates supplied with the XB9 kit.
In the PDF manual it's page 31 > 10. radio case > part# 356120 in the exploded view.


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 Post subject: SHOULD I BE WORRY?
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 18:52:57 
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When I read and read and read forums about xb9, all the time I read that people are making a lot mod or using another brand parts in its xb9 shocks. springs, piston, something like that

I recently switch from mugen to xb9, I am really happy with the car, but only have run it once.
of course I need to work with my suspension set up, I used the stock set up.

Now Should I be Worry?

I dont want to spent time and money making mod,off course I can drill original piston etc, but I would like run my Xb9 pure xray machine, I just have purchased all springs (808) available, I did not test all yet and I am waiting for the new ones

My Question in this Official Forum is SHOULD I BE WORRY?
Any advice from official Drivers?
how the Xb9 should feel on the pit table?
Thanks in advance


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 Post subject: Re: SHOULD I BE WORRY?
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 05:12:39 
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Arushmen wrote:
When I read and read and read forums about xb9, all the time I read that people are making a lot mod or using another brand parts in its xb9 shocks. springs, piston, something like that

I recently switch from mugen to xb9, I am really happy with the car, but only have run it once.
of course I need to work with my suspension set up, I used the stock set up.

Now Should I be Worry?

I dont want to spent time and money making mod,off course I can drill original piston etc, but I would like run my Xb9 pure xray machine, I just have purchased all springs (808) available, I did not test all yet and I am waiting for the new ones

My Question in this Official Forum is SHOULD I BE WORRY?
Any advice from official Drivers?
how the Xb9 should feel on the pit table?
Thanks in advance


I wouldn't be worried about the various shock set-ups. There's a lot of options out there. The Pistons are a big deal and a fairly cheap mod. The machined pistons from AE, Serpent, or others that are made for either of those seem to fit the shock better. The blow by on the stock pistons is one thing but my biggest concern was the shaft had a lot of wobble with the stock pistons and I feared premature wear on the orings and shaft guides.

I think the wide range of springs xray has should be fine and they fit the shocks the best. I ran kyosho springs the first couple times I ran the car and I just don't like how they rub the shock bodies and dont' fit well in the spring cups.

As far as using other mfg's bits and pieces to make a car better should not be a worry. Their is no perfect car out there, most cars have a couple things that could be improved and somethings you can improve by using a different mfg's piece.

I've had only a couple of races with my XB9, still working on finding the optimum setup on everything but overall the cars has been good.


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 Post subject: Re: SHOULD I BE WORRY?
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 05:14:19 
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Arushmen wrote:
When I read and read and read forums about xb9, all the time I read that people are making a lot mod or using another brand parts in its xb9 shocks. springs, piston, something like that

I recently switch from mugen to xb9, I am really happy with the car, but only have run it once.
of course I need to work with my suspension set up, I used the stock set up.

Now Should I be Worry?

I dont want to spent time and money making mod,off course I can drill original piston etc, but I would like run my Xb9 pure xray machine, I just have purchased all springs (808) available, I did not test all yet and I am waiting for the new ones

My Question in this Official Forum is SHOULD I BE WORRY?
Any advice from official Drivers?
how the Xb9 should feel on the pit table?
Thanks in advance


You don't need to worry. The car is very good without all of the mods and parts from other manufacturers, the Xray parts are fine and they work very good. The reason we are making those mods is just to make the car even better, and we just want to try different stuff. Just find the setup that fits your driving style, and you don't really need to change alot from there! If you have any questions just ask! :)

-Cade


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 Post subject: Re: XB9
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 15:05:29 
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Thanks for you replys, I really appreciate it
"If", but only "If"I was a Xray`s staff, I would be working in learning to users how setup properly their shock. why?
Because the xrays cars has bad reputation about their shock, and now they did a big improve in the shock and I think the people make a lot of modification before test completely the xray shock , but of course this is my opinion , and I really respect all that you are doing to improve your cars.
I will still working in the xray shock to find the right piston, oil spring combination to my local tracks and still talking with you in this way about it

Thanks
and goog race this week end


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 Post subject: Re: XB9
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 16:57:58 
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Arushmen wrote:
Thanks for you replys, I really appreciate it
If, but only If I was a Xray`s staff, I would be working in learning to users how setup properly their shock. why?
Because the xrays cars has bad reputation about their shock, and now the did a big improve in the shock and I think the people make a lot of modification before test completely the xray shock , but of course this is my opinion , and I really respect all that you are doing to improve your cars.
I will still working in the xray shock to find the right piston, oil spring combination to may tracks and still talking with you in this way about it

Thanks
and goog race this week end

Hi Arushmen,

the bad thing on Xray shocks previously where only and alone the O-rings. Since there're the red ones everything is fine there. And of course machined pistons are better but if you be careful you can perfectly fit the pistons included that needs a little work to fit (cut them out and finish them). The fill spot for the molds sits above the piston so that's not a problem. Just prepare them carefully and finish them on an old shaft in a Dremel with 2000 wet sandpaper on the edges (not the full side).

But think further: If there were machined pistons in the kit, then there only could be exact 4 pistons inside to be able to offer an affordable kit to most of the hobbyists. But people want setup options straight out of the kit. Just an example: 2 Kyosho pistons = 10 Euro. When calculating that up to the amount of molded pistons in the Xray kits then you're at round about 100 Euro extra.

I think that most people "complaining" about shock performances just don't realize that setting up the perfect working shock needs know-how like finding the perfect tune for the engine.


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 Post subject: Progressive springs
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 19:02:43 
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Hi.

Is there 3 different progressive springs? Silver (soft) and already for sale. 2 and 3 stripe springs Neo drivers got from XRAY. 2 is medium and 3 is hard?

Thanks


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 Post subject: Re: XB9
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 15:26:20 
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Yes that's it, we are actually working on different solutions, but that will be the new range.

Reno


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 Post subject: Re: XB9
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 15:44:07 
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Reno Savoya wrote:
Yes that's it, we are actually working on different solutions, but that will be the new range.

Reno

We will be waiting for that
This weekend will be Venezuela Nationals. It will be my firts Important racing with my xb9
I hope all be nice


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